[Flywheel compatibility] Chest flickering without shaders

[seriousfreezing]

https://mclo.gs/uzPTAtp

[maDU59]

I'm not sure of what's the issue in the picture?

[seriousfreezing]

Oh, I don't think it captured the right frame. But there's some z-fighting-like flickering of black on the chest.

[maDU59]

Oh when it switched from animating to not animating? Disable the ambient occlusion, aside from that there's nothing much to do, the lighting is different between blocks and block entities sadly.

[seriousfreezing]

Hmmm, I'm having this problem with BBE, too. And it looks like this is a bug in the Create Fly.
If you leave the Flywheel enabled, it causes these visual glitches on the chests. Is there any support or compatibility for this mod?

And yes, this bug occurs without any animation at all. And even without AO.

[maDU59]

Oh I wasn't aware of this, without AO and without animation is weird, could you send me a video?

[seriousfreezing]

This print was tested with BBE, but the effect is the same. ^^^^

This is because Flywheel uses a batch-based rendering system. And unfortunately, it affects the entity blocks.

[maDU59]

Oh yes that is kinda weird, I'll see what I can do about it

[seriousfreezing]

I tested it a little more and came up with a temporary solution. Create works fine on its own; it can handle a lot of chests and a lot of its own machines.

But if you enable shaders, Flywheel shuts itself down, causing extreme lag again with Create’s chests and machines (that is, if you have a giant stack of both). What I suggest might be to have a smart option that automatically activates OBE when Iris shaders are enabled. That way, the situation is less problematic for vanilla entity blocks.

[maDU59]

Idk how flywheel works, but latest version may have fixed that

[seriousfreezing]

I just tested it in the latest version, and it seems that’s not the case. But unlike BBE, in the latest versions of OBE there are times when previously generated chests no longer exhibit this flickering. The flickering only occurs if you open a chest and close it immediately afterward.

However, chests that the player has just placed in the world still exhibit this flickering.

(If you leave the chest open for a while, it doesn’t flicker.)

[maDU59]

Well then it's still better ig?
I don't think I'll be able to do much more than that, you probably shouldn't use Flywheel optimization (I believe you mean Vanillin?) and OBE optimization for the same block entities at the same time.

[seriousfreezing]

That’s not quite right. Vanillin is a mod that actually uses Flywheel as a basis for optimizing entity blocks.

But that’s not the case here. I’m only using OBE and Create (Create uses Flywheel). And I need to use Flywheel somehow because it’s the only thing that optimizes Create’s blocks; if your mod actually optimized them, I’d agree that it wouldn’t be necessary.

So currently, the problem is this: Flywheel optimizes Create’s entities well, but if you enable shaders, it gets disabled. And with shaders disabled, it optimizes both Vanilla and Create entity blocks well.

[maDU59]

Well then I suggest enabling / disabling them as well as the shaders

[seriousfreezing]

Well, right now I leave both enabled at the same time for anyone who wants to play without shaders and use the Create feature—even though there’s that bug. That way, when someone does enable shaders, the experience won’t be too bad.